Tuesday, June 29, 2010

Lets set some things clear

1 - Project is not a hoax. TeamFSD is alive and well, and FSD 2.0 exist, just have a look at svn log...
2 - Life is sometime a bitch, i'm pretty much out of free time these, cause I do have a full time job, a wife, a dog and a house to take care of! When I have 1 or 2 hours free i do need to get some sun!
Can you imagine how much time it takes to keep up with every change that happen in the project, analyse, develop and post every change here? Even thought I do not post a lot these days and dont contribute a lot in the svn, I'm still in almost every design discussion and help other coders with whatever they are working on.
3 - I expected to take last weekend to work a lot on FSD but my main server hard drive crashed and lost a full tb of data, some of my personnal data and some of work related data, and need I need to catch on what i lost!
4 - Building a stable alpha version is taking a bit more job than I first expected but the wait will be worth it! And from the SVN log I guess you can clearly see that work is going on. Last time I fully tested every was pretty much working great, except that there was some trouble with the XBLA game list and there was some cpu issue when scrolling the game list, but were almost there.
5 - here's my personnal take on jigga99's melodrama :
Lol this could be splitted on multiple points, but just a direct message to him :
If you want to release it, why arent you doing it?
And why arent you contributing you code fix with us if you think you did better than us? TeamFSD is pretty easy to reach.
Here's a bit of FSD history for those who could be interested :
axc97c started the project as a lone coder,
released v1.0 up to v1.09 with souce code bundled with files, annonced with l.09 that he dont have any more free time to work on project.
JQE took over the project, gathered some coders on irc and forums. TeamFSD was created!
TeamFSD then put FSD 1.09 source on Google Code (http://code.google.com/p/freestyledash/source/list?num=25&start=15, Created on March 2nd, by Workerbe, which is JQE) FSD 1.09 was released in febuary. Therefore you can see that TeamFSD did put the project on Google Code, not original creator.
We then released 1.10.
When building we received shit load of stupid flaming comments about the source not building on certain revision. Project was really active, some guys were making daily build, posting them all around and claiming credits for it. We were coping with this.
The whole 1.x source was some really spaghetti, still a great job for a lone coder, but almost lucky some part worked properly. We started to a major rewrite for 2.0 so it comply to standard development patterns and get a clean way for skinners to do almost whatever they want.
To ensured we did a good job, we pretty much started from scratch. On current svn (google code) there was lots of flamers sending hate mail when a single revision had a trouble, just thinking about the whole source being pretty much destroyed , we though it was a better idea to close the door a bit until we can get 2.0 out.
2.0 required a lot of research for some features that were still untested (http downloading,  fan speed management, led management), and we didnt wanted this untested code to go widespread as this could possibly cause damage to an xbox (i did screwed up 2 board of lights while testing).
Plans has always been to package source with every release and we never said we wont go back to a public svn!

So lets start with some of jigga99's explaination :

nope, I have absolutely nothing to do with teamfsd,
Indeed
I have last weeks source. like i said,
This post was made today, therefore he would have  source from > june 20th.
from what i see from thier ’secret’ source theyre working so hard on, its fulll of bugs and garbage code that barely works.
 Well if you think design patterns are garbage then I can see how much of a great coder you are!
i’ll give it one plus, it looks damn good visually, but functionality is a few steps back from 1.20
In which point is it a step back? 
Lets recap most of 1.20 features :
          -List games based on folder, manually entered for each category
          -FTP Server
          -NTP Client
          -Use PC software to download cover art and stuff
Thats pretty much it for the "Big" features.
Lets compare to actual status of 2.0 :
          -List games based on generic folder then autodetect type of the content, so you can just dump pretty much any folder.
         -FTP Server
         -NTP Client
         -Download cover art and stuff from HTTP without using PC software.
         -Extract game information from xex without having to download for non connected xbox.
         -RSS Client
         -Skin fully customisable
Where's the few steps back?
“why not to submit your fixes to the official project?”
there is no ‘official’ project in case u havnt noticed. what about this ‘team’ or this ‘project’ seems so ‘official’? its an open source project now all of a sudden closed source, and if you *think* they’ll be making it open source again, youre crazy….trust me.
Haha so you got super secret contact that know whats in every one's mind? Dont worry you'll all get official 2.0 source at the same time as the official 2.0 release. 
im just giving back what belongs to the people. think of me as robin hood with a computer
So i guess you are wearing thights while stealing some code? :P


Let me take the jigga99's post that is the most interesting :
dont worry guys, VERY SOON you will have a release, we changed things up a bit
working on my own stuff, these guys took free code and got selfish, but I’ll be fixing that verrry soon with our own custom release.
So trying to release a software as stable as possible is selfish? 
theres tons of bugs (thats the type of stuff that happens when u have a couple kids testing their own code behind closed doors…)
So you can make a whole dashboard without having any bugs WHILE STILL IN PRE-ALPHA STAGE?
but most of which will be worked out in a few days, and I’ll be releasing a working FSD by this upcoming sunday, along with source.
Great can't wait to see this! If you did fixed most of the issue that congrats, we'll integrate it and release a proper FSD 2.0!  
what we’ve done:
- dvd copy fixed and complete
 My last post was about dvd copy that might not make it into alpha release, I did pointed that the mecanism is there. Only the skin was missing. No fix was required as this was already working 100% using our debug commands mecanism. So unless he either did the skin for the module (which can be painfull if you dont fully understand whats going on and how we wanted to have this implemented)  or he redid the whole mecanism or simply used 1.20 code which was buggy as hell.
- avatars glitches fixed
LoL so what was those glitches?
- removed ’save game viewer’ crap
Some save game viewing feature were added in svn on june 27th, there was no trace of that before, so if is code is from last week, then he doesnt have this 
- faster/better FTP (faster and better than what theyre probably going to release)
 There's some usb writing issue that slow down ftp transfer, writing to the drive slowly dies on large file. Cant wait to see how he can have rewritten the xbox usb drivers. I might be totally wrong about this, but my conclusion comes from days of experimentation. If theres a way around the current issues, i'm pretty much hyped to see how they are fixed!
- fixed some graphic glitches
 Only graphical glitche there is, is some buffering issue with the image, but were pretty much fixed now, I dont think its what he's talking about.
Im gonna try and revert some of the crap these guys put on here. as of right now it looks all pretty and flashy, but ur literally better off with 1.20 (which is why im removing/fixing all these issues before i release) im gonna try my best to give the people what they want (based on viewing comments and such from everyone) and then just release the source from there.
already got an svn partially set up so this project can go back to the people! keep an eye on xbox-scene news, you’ll be seeing some updates soon
Cant wait till he release this hacked FSD 2.0!


Personnally i dont think he's real and I wouldnt get my hopes up for his planned next sunday release. If he do, I cant wait to see what changes he made. Which version was it built of.


I'm off now, i'm gonna test latest build on my retail xbox to see if were almost done nailing the minor issues that are left.









19 comments:

  1. You tell em helldoc. You guys are great. both as coders and personally as I have chatted with several of you often on IRC.

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  2. Lol I´m pretty new into that stuff but I rather wait for YOUR release :-)

    Well well the envy is everywhere.

    Bet you sort it out and everybody will be stuned. Greetz from Germany

    Seb.

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  3. By the way, for those who dont know, this is all related to whats going on in those comments :
    http://www.teamfsd.com/2010/06/17/configurable-scenes/#comments

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  4. Wow, didn't see this coming. Glad to hear you're still working on your release regardless of what a would be hacker is saying.

    Still can't wait for FSD 2.0

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  5. Thanks for the post Helldoc, in a word you're a gentleman. My best wishes for all the team.

    Did you decided what features will be disabled until the final release? Are you gonna release the alpha source code or wait to the final release?

    I want to contribute translating FSD 2.0 to spanish as soon as posible. It's possible to force a translation in the 2.0 skin like 1.20, even if no work has been done on multilanguage yet?

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  6. Thanks for the update. :)

    Looking forward to the release.
    (That wont blow my Xbox 360 to pieces)

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  7. don't care about stupid peolple sying things that can't understand... most of right people are out of there and ready to help... come on guys!!

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  8. That new freestyle 2,0 go being compativel with any xbox 360, for all that the my already go up-to-date couple at version 2.0.9199 ???
    I attempt deploy the version 1,03 / 1,09 - E GIVE The ERROR : NO IS POSSIBLE INICALIZAR The GAME.

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  9. @ Dj RogDan

    When you mean Xbox 360 Dash 9199, you mean Freeboot 0.32 right?
    Freestyle Dash will fail to launch if your Xbox 360 console dont have the JTAG exploit.
    (DVD firmware does not count BTW.)

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  10. Sounds like Dj rogdan is not on a jtag box

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  11. I'm happy with the FSD I currently have. Would I like more? Of course. But I'm glad you guys are taking the time to do it right and not releasing something that could potentially brick boxes. Keep up the good work and thanks for the recap.

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  12. I don't need to read those comments of that hater. I trust you even if I don't know you personally.
    I understand what you're saying. It doesn't make sense to release a thing that it's not finished and that won't work as it's supposed.
    Just wait, it'll be worth it!
    Congrats and keep up the good job! Just don't forget your family and your things just because of morons that keep flaming!

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  13. My Xbox 360 no be JTAG , e already be up-to-date couple at dash 9199 . Want knowledge whether have as i deploy the freestyle ???
    For All That i deploy the version freestyle 1,03 / 1,09 - e give the error : NO Be POSSIBLE INITIALIZE The GAME.

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  14. Freestyle Dash (All versions btw.) or any other kind of Xbox 360 homebrew requires a JTAGed console.

    @ Dj RogDan:
    Only way you can use Freestyle Dash would be to buy a JTAGed console.

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  15. Then you will need to buy a new XBOX?? do not have as JTAG on my XBOX 360 (dash9199) - if you like drop me a tutorial in Portuguese please.
    ONLY THAT I LIVE IN BRAZIL!

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  16. Guides are available on nearly every Xbox 360 forum.
    But doing the JTAG exploit depends on how good you are with a soldering iron.
    One small mistake and the Xbox 360 is toast. :(

    Just try grabbing a Xbox 360 thats already been JTAGed, as its the safest method.
    Thats what i did.

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  17. Just want to say, keep up the good work. And don't pay any attention to the leppers :)

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  18. hello
    good job guys

    but why there no more svn log since some times on teamfsd website ???

    thks

    ps: screenshot / video of advance will be a good idea .....

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  19. the SVN log on teamfsd does not work?

    any reason why?

    thanks and keep up the great work peeps looking forward to using it.

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